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MensajeTema: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 1:24 pm

Bueno locas.. como todo es AOM!.. ahaha... aqui les dejo uno de los games jugados con soldier.. donde nos relataron el game...

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SoldieR, PR: 40
Against
LeoN_: PR 29

France vs Brits on Siberia


Player info
In this game both players are decent, however SoldieR has a huge PR advantage over LeoN_ so he is definitely favored in this match!

Map Info
Siberia is an asian map with several important features to note.
First of all each player starts with a Tower near their TC thus providing great early defense against colonial pushes and harassment.
Additionally there is a layer of ice making a line in the middle of the map, thus players are not able to make any buildings in the middle of the map, thus making it difficult to make a FB properly.
The resources are relatively balanced. Each player starts with a herd , several berry bushes, trees, and 1 gold mine. Leon’s secondary hunt is more accessible than SoldieR’s, but fighting for these sparse hunts and gold mines will be key on this map.
Lastly, this map has quite a few great treasures such as the 2 tigers guarding 85 wood. Also, the 1 tiger guarding 50 wood right in SoldieR’s base!
Unfortunately for SoldieR, LeoN_ gets the only Duber the pet monkey treasures on the map!


Game description
Discover
Both players do a typical start. SoldieR goes for early hunting dogs and gets his 50 wood treasure and an 85 wood treasure to make up for the wood costs while gathering a bit of gold.  LeoN_ goes for the regular 17 vill brit age, while SoldieR does a typical 14 villager age up with France.

During transition SoldieR is able to catch LeoN_’s explorer with his native scout and a CdB and manages to kill it thus leaving LeoN_ in the dark!

SoldieR goes for placer mines and gathers quite a bit of gold and about 200 wood during transition therefore he most likely will go musk+huss start while LeoN_ builds another manor and then goes food heavy, perhaps he will do a musk start with the age up 200 gold

Colonial
SoldieR reaches colonial slightly before LeoN_ and ships 4 CdB while putting up a barracks and a stable in his base and immediately begins making those units.
Meanwhile very unexpected LeoN_ decides to ship 700 gold first, a pretty strange choice as brits and puts his age up outpost defensively.

Additionally he does not seem to be building a barracks, perhaps he will do some black watch brit FF as the church card in his deck implies.
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Although this may sometimes be a valid option, I doubt it is a good choice against France. SoldieR seems to be intending to put some pressure and if needed can easily fast age and overpower LeoN_ quite easily with superior fortress units.
SoldieR starts sending in his muskets and hussars when LeoN_ puts up a defensive barracks behind his TC and is aging with adventurer politican to fortress. However SoldieR decides to retreat as the age up outpost and the starting castle along with the TC is too strong of a defense for him to overpower.

However SoldieR starts raiding with his first batch of hussars and manages to kill a few villagers at a hunt.

Meanwhile SoldieR also goes for a large 475 food treasure close to his base with his small group of muskets and explorer.

Fortress
LeoN_ has already reached fortress and continues to play strangely, he ships in muskets and makes more muskets and upgrades them for a veteran musket army, however it is very unlikely he can do much with those until he gets falcs.

SoldieR on the other hand is having some resource distribution issues, he has far too much gold compared to food but reaches the required age up resources and goes with the exiled prince.
LeoN_ finally is able to start shipping in his 2 falconets right as SoldieR ages and starts shipping in 3 cuirs.  The scores are 116 to 102 in favor of SoldieR with SoldieR massively ahead economically.

What LeoN_ has done is a bad idea. Not only did he give up brit’s typical strong colonial army and economy but rather than aging and immediately putting pressure, he just aged for veteran muskets and is just sitting around with them for minutes thus completely negating his advantage of aging to fortress earlier.

LeoN_ decides to advance once his falconets arrive but badly manages them so that they almost run into SoldieR’s advancing now veteran muskets, fortunately for him SoldieR also mismanaged and ran his muskets into the falconets alone without cav back up.  Thus SoldieR ended up losing all of his muskets and cav while LeoN_ lost most of his lbows and both falconets and was forced to retreat against the 8 skirm shipment.


LeoN_ has put up a stable and shipped in 5 hussars with great timing, they arrive just as SoldieR pushes with his skirms and cuirs, however his 5 goon shipment hasn’t quite arrived yet thus leaving him quite vulnerable to the 5 hussars and various muskets.
LeoN_ is able to quite effectively destroy SoldieR’s army before his reinforcements arrive, but in the process lost his infantry so mostly only has hussars- which aren’t even upgraded.


LeoN_ sends his hussars out for a raid, but by chance happens to run right into SoldieR’s goons+cuirs when they seem to be heading out for a raid as well thus taking very heavy damage.


Both players continue massing units, SoldieR_ has a goon+skirm+cuir based army while LeoN_ has huss+musk+lbow army. They both have very few safe resource locations which is why SoldieR_ is able to get a few villagers with his cav again.
SoldieR_ has the initiative and takes it by pushing into LeoN_’s base, his army seems much superior:
LeoN_ makes the correct choice and withdraws his army from the losing battle, however SoldieR’s army comes right between LeoN’s mass of villagers and kill many before LeoN’s last remaining army arrive to help push SoldieR away:

Will LeoN_ be able to push back SoldieR’s seemingly superior army?

Summary
This game is quite unpredictable. LeoN_’s strange strategy choice of doing a brit FF makes the game very unusual from the typical france vs brits match up. However, both players make mistakes thus it is quite difficult to predict the game’s outcome. Nevertheless both players did quite well in this GG!



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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 1:51 pm

olle leon que significa eso?

que eres muy bueno? te reconocieron por ser 29 yy ganarle a 40? si es asi congratulation
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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 1:56 pm

uff, buenisma descripcion de la parrtida, pero quien gano?

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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 2:04 pm

bueno man!

ya gane el dos vecez ya, pero perdi muchas!
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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 2:06 pm

vean la partida.. solo fue un game raro.. donde estube solo improvisando.. xD .. con el FF briti ... el cual tube la idea de transformarlo en un FI_rev ..

y napo.. nop.. soy neebb!.. xD .. ahhaha.. pero algo hice ^^

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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 2:27 pm

VIVA LA LEONA !!!!!!!!!! :D:D
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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 2:28 pm

carajo andres dime quien gano q yo no tengo el FP instalado xD

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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 3:01 pm

SpNz | And_Che escribió:
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What LeoN_ has done is a bad idea....

Tipico de el...
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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 3:39 pm

SpNz-Alvaroes escribió:
SpNz | And_Che escribió:
....
What LeoN_ has done is a bad idea....

Tipico de el...

ahahahah.... marika.. hahaha..

almenos tengo un relato de un game y una entrevista... ya estoy cerca de ser tan popular como el mas popular y veterano.. laugh laugh laugh

wololoooo

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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 6:30 pm

SpNz | And_Che escribió:
SpNz-Alvaroes escribió:
SpNz | And_Che escribió:
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What LeoN_ has done is a bad idea....

Tipico de el...

ahahahah.... marika.. hahaha..

almenos tengo un relato de un game y una entrevista... ya estoy cerca de ser tan popular como el mas popular y veterano.. laugh laugh laugh

wololoooo


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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 6:36 pm

se ve q la gente no olvida sus rencores... hay dolores que no pasan =_)..

clanes ineptos ^^!
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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 6:40 pm

SpNz - Juan Andres escribió:
SpNz | And_Che escribió:
SpNz-Alvaroes escribió:
SpNz | And_Che escribió:
....
What LeoN_ has done is a bad idea....

Tipico de el...

ahahahah.... marika.. hahaha..

almenos tengo un relato de un game y una entrevista... ya estoy cerca de ser tan popular como el mas popular y veterano.. laugh laugh laugh

wololoooo


y empezaras a dar clases avanzadas para clanes ineptos? Jajajja Jajajja Jajajja Jajajja


Juan Andres.ningun clan es inepto.......digo esto pq me imagino que te refieres al caso de Juank cuando le estaba dando unas clases para que subieran su nivel los Mow,y no me gusto esa palabra para un clan(mas que yo perteneci a los MoW y le tengo mucho afecto aun).....

a che.....estas echo un nerd........haber que tal esta partida,por lo que dices debio ser interesante...


.. =P

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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 7:21 pm

JAjaJAjaJA, pero que ........... a que te refieres con clanes ineptos, que insinuan ^^ jaja, hay que hacer amigos no enemigos :O =P Beer Beer
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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 8:18 pm

haha.. no se para que se afligen tanto.. por esa palabra.. inepto es sinónimo de no aptos.. juan lleva mucho tiempo retirado del age3 y de la comunidad.. y para decir verdad todos eramos, fuimos, somos o seremos ineptos... en definitiva es noob!... ademas nadie hablo de un clan o de alguien ...

wololoooo wololoooo wololoooo wololoooo wololoooo

a todo esto juan esta mas inepto que todos!!... hauhaha... noob!!


bye.. ineptos!!. hahahahah

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MensajeTema: Re: LeoN_ vs Soldier   Lun Jul 26, 2010 9:23 pm

SpNz | And_Che escribió:
haha.. no se para que se afligen tanto.. por esa palabra.. inepto es sinónimo de no aptos.. juan lleva mucho tiempo retirado del age3 y de la comunidad.. y para decir verdad todos eramos, fuimos, somos o seremos ineptos... en definitiva es noob!... ademas nadie hablo de un clan o de alguien ...

wololoooo wololoooo wololoooo wololoooo wololoooo

a todo esto juan esta mas inepto que todos!!... hauhaha... noob!!


bye.. ineptos!!. hahahahah


Shocked ......lo tome por otro lado,es que aqui en colombia inepto significa,que no sirve para nada,por eso comente como comente.....pero si juan se refiere a no aptos=a noobs...el comentario es valido mas no esta actualizado,ya que los MoW han cogido un muy buen nivel(diria que esta entre los tres mejores clanes, en cuando nivel se refiere en latinoamerica,para mi juegan mejor que los IRB que son muy buen clan tambien,los lyxn,entre otros muchos )............ =P .....y segundo clan entre los foros mas vacanos en lengua hispna y del continente americano en el juego del aoe3(despues de nosotros claro esta groso )...

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